Later...

[Finface]

Delete the thread.

 

[Jack_Toepfer]

Can you drive the car up on to boards that are on the lift? Imagine just taking a 2x10 or 2 of them on the runways and driving up on to them. Now you’re 3” higher for the jack under the car to go where it needs to go. I’d stay away from the scissor jacks because they lack stability. I hate them.

 

[BULL]

I'm a horrible person (and you wrote way longer than my normal attention span is, at least at this particular moment...) (See what I did there, "moment"???)


The scissor jacks have the vertical lift capacity, but not the lateral stability to be safe.

Did I answer the question, or did I really screw up by not reading ALL of the post?

 

[BULL]

BTW, I really like the lift setup, it seems like it's the answer to what I want and need.

But of course you're struggling with it not working for you, so maybe not...?

 

[Slowpoke387]

Im with Bull. Word for word.
Also not many are going to read a post that long. Gotta trim the fat.

 

[1971demon]

I'm a horrible person (and you wrote way longer than my normal attention span is, at least at this particular moment...) (See what I did there, "moment"???)


The scissor jacks have the vertical lift capacity, but not the lateral stability to be safe.

Did I answer the question, or did I really screw up by not reading ALL of the post?

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Im with Bull. Word for word.
Also not many are going to read a post th

Im with Bull. Word for word.
Also not many are going to read a post that long. Gotta trim the fat.

Imagine him a priest...the Sunday sermon..ends Monday afternoon

 

[DGatzby]

@Finface you may need to get a QuickJack to set on the lift, then you can be confident that it is stable up in the air for you to work on it. Think about poor guys like me, we are still stuck laying on the floor with the insects and rodents with just the QuickJack.

I agree with the above. I read your first three paragraphs.

 

[Jack_Toepfer]

FWIW - I had to read it on the smallest iPhone screen that's still supported. Scrolling and scrolling, wondering when it might end... lol

 

[BULL]

Ok, I'm going back in

If I'm not back out by the Holidays, send help.

 

[BULL]

Ok, I went in, read (all), and came back out, 12 minutes.

Stand by

 

[BULL]

It seems like you are trying to solve two problems.

The unlikely, but possible, failure of a purpose built combination jack and jack-stand unit on your setup.

(In theory every time I use my Quickjack, I could have this same failure mode. Car is up on the mechanical locks, one of many possible failures occurs preventing the lift off of the lock, and subsequent safe, even, lowering of the car.)

Question? Do you also worry about the main lift itself failing? Do you also feel the need to have backup support for each of the corners of the main lift?

Problem two: Not being able to lift the car high enough with the Titan jacks (only the small extensions).

What do you think about getting some of the low rise Raceramps that are full length (pricey). This gets the car up a few (4inches?) inches which should allow for the Titan jacks to use the taller extensions.

Third problem (as noted by me), your forward Titan jack appears to be positioned too far back, leaving too much of the front of the car cantilevered over it. This gives me more grief than anything else. This could be an illusion however.

Linkage for specific Raceramps coming soon.

 

[BULL]

This isn't the set I was thinking about, but it gets the same thing done for less money.

https://www.raceramps.com/car-storage/ramps/flatstoppers/p/RR-FS-10/

 

[BULL]

This is the idea I had, but maybe the combination of these and the lift isn't workable.

https://www.raceramps.com/garage-service/ramps/lift/p/RR-CLR-4/

 

[BULL]

Could you put jack stands under the QuickJack's ramps?
Finface

When I first got them, I did have a minor bit of apprehension about the linkage that locks them in one of two lift heights, and further, I did contemplate the idea of additional security by placing traditional jackstands under the car while I'm actually under it.

But, to be honest, I've grown accustom to them and have been under the car many times. (They are rated for this kind of use)

With that said, here is how I specifically use my Quickjack. I raise it up with the hydraulic unit, lower it down against the mechanical lock, then just slightly raise it back up with the hydraulics, without actually unloading the mechanical lock.

With this situation I essentially have created a situation where there has to be a complete failure of both the hydraulics AND the mechanical locks for the car to come down.


Possible? Yes. Likely? No.


Now if I was going to get under there and start yanking on things hard, I again might think about using some additional jackstands to ensure my grape doesn't get squished...


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BTW, I did indirectly know a guy that was under his car with only a hydraulic jack. It came down on him and crushed his chest. He didn't die right away and his wife came out to find him. SHE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THE HYDRAULIC JACK. He died later in the hospital.

My wife told me this years ago (her co-worker), we went out that moment and she learned how to use a jack. When I got the Quickjack, she learned how to use it too.


.02

 

[DGatzby]

When I first got them, I did have a minor bit of apprehension about the linkage that locks them in one of two lift heights, and further, I did contemplate the idea of additional security by placing traditional jackstands under the car while I'm actually under it.

But, to be honest, I've grown accustom to them and have been under the car many times. (They are rated for this kind of use)

With that said, here is how I specifically use my Quickjack. I raise it up with the hydraulic unit, lower it down against the mechanical lock, then just slightly raise it back up with the hydraulics, without actually unloading the mechanical lock.

With this situation I essentially have created a situation where there has to be a complete failure of both the hydraulics AND the mechanical locks for the car to come down.


Possible? Yes. Likely? No.


Now if I was going to get under there and start yanking on things hard, I again might think about using some additional jackstands to ensure my grape doesn't get squished...


=====================


BTW, I did indirectly know a guy that was under his car with only a hydraulic jack. It came down on him and crushed his chest. He didn't die right away and his wife came out to find him. SHE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THE HYDRAULIC JACK. He died later in the hospital.

My wife told me this years ago (her co-worker), we went out that moment and she learned how to use a jack. When I got the Quickjack, she learned how to use it too.


.02

I do the same with the QJ. Hydraulic load on top of the mechanical lockout. I would sleep under there if necessary. I have zero apprehension about both of those failures occurring at once.

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

Ok.....since I'm used to "coming up with things that will work for things you don't have".....I'll throw this out for thought....or immediate group brow beating....either one works for me.

The jack in your pic doesn't look to have a very wide base, which makes them less stable. Below are some pics of the jack that I took out of a Chrysler300 at the local junkyard to use in my Challenger. I got this jack, and the handle and a few other bits for about $12. Not sure if you have a junkyard near you, but you can find similar jacks from late model cars that will fit the bill. Quite a few GM factory jacks have a nice lip that fits around the pinchweld very nicely (I know....gasp...using a GM piece). I can send you a pic of the jack that I picked up for my Camaro if you want, just let me know.

The base of this jack is decent sized and offers the ability to bolt all 4 corners of it to a nice piece of 10x10, or so piece of steel, which will definitely increase the stability factor. I'm guessing that cross bolting to two opposite diagonal corners would work too, but I'd do the 4. the base of this jack measures 6 x 4.25 inches.

And it does fit under the Challenger. I used it to lift my Challenger up a little bit to get my floor jack under the factory jack pads because my floor jack wasn't low enough to get under.

 

[Linda's Hell Cat]

Haha @BULL I saw this thread early this morning and thought I cant wait until Bull posts up his thought ....thinking to myself that long post is gonna kill but lifts are intriguing to you.
I watched this Bingo you posted everything I thought you would

You are a good guy Bull!

Linda

 

[Magnified]

Fin,

If that was on the ground, maybe. I'd be really hesitant with the car being elevated several different ways at once - those scissors aren't going to take much sway / lateral force and the down side is major. Can you put a pad / wood block on the top of the slide lifts? How much extra height are you looking for? An inch or so, plastic or wood, would get you the height if I'm reading that post right. I admit I did not read everything so feel free to ignore.

 

[2017 Redline HC]

I use 2 jack stands under the back end of each side of the quickjack
I never get under a car that’s supported by the lifting device that doesn’t have safety latches.

 

[Magnified]

So you've already tried my patented "add a piece of wood" technique.