High Tech EV Doesn't Solve The Charging Problem

[Jimmy N.]

Its amazing to me how many here are so negative on something that most have never driven or owned. My electric cars are fantastic daily vehicles...

My trackhawk, is worth 20K more than what I paid according to KBB. I am surprised you sold it, hard to get one that is not modified.

In my case the negativity is based on that an EV just plain would not work for us. Other than to go to the nearby post office, and to NAPA once a month or so to get some unexpectedly needed part it'd just sit there with a cord attached.

Having too many vehicles already, adding an EV for that limited usage just doesn't make any sense. Although, we have joked about getting one to drive back and forth to the barn when the weather is bad.

My Trackhawk went to GiveMeTheVIN when I decided that I'd rather have a TRX instead. My girlfriend's became an early down payment on an ordered RS6 Avant. Neither was modified and both ended up being worth more than we'd paid. But making money on selling cars is nothing unusual to me.

 

[Smitty]

I don’t personally have anything against EV’s but our government has caused me to hate them because they’re trying to force us to buy them. I don’t need anyone, especially our f’d up government, telling me what’s good for me. Take a look at how jacked up the country is and and ask yourself if these are the people who should be telling us what to buy.

 

[SilverBillet]

This is an EV eye opener! Huge graveyards of new EV’s. Hard to fathom. Only in China! Think of all those batteries and the mining and manufacturing that went into them. Unbelievable!
https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_rwg9hqtzvV1zlxqpx.mp4

 

[Bobo]

This is an EV eye opener! Huge graveyards of new EV’s. Hard to fathom. Only in China! Think of all those batteries and the mining and manufacturing that went into them. Unbelievable!
https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_rwg9hqtzvV1zlxqpx.mp4

I've seen the bicycle video before! Just sickening the lies being told and the people eating them up just infuriates me!!

 

[Hickster]

The supa fund admin is ova whelmed as it is. At town home #2 dare is a huge piece of property dat haz been on da list fer 15 ears now. The dept of energy ia respocible fer it. Run by whom??
What is goen 2 happen to da control stations when all da chargun stations are at full cum pass ity? They are goen 2 blow. If da chargen stations blow, how da wurkin persun goen 2 get 2 wurk 2 pay da taxes to keep em open. Havin wurked on da power plants hea in central Fl and in Tenn, thay need 2 be overhauled. But wit da power cumpanies can not afford da redick shuns da guvnurd has put on em. They will scrap, literally sheet metal 2 da scrap yard, and all uz miny mum metal will go. With no replace mints. No power plants, lacken and out dated infuck structer, sitten in line 2 charge wit no electrons 2 uze. Use dudes are screwed. Free electric my ass. Youz guys are payen fer it sumz ware or will be. I am goen 2 injoy my 93 ucktane till gone. No moe taxes.

 

[ButterDaGreat?]

Its amazing to me how many here are so negative on something that most have never driven or owned. My electric cars are fantastic daily vehicles, I don't see going back to ICE given the free (to me charging) and the free charging is offered on the 2023 and 2024 models.

My trackhawk, is worth 20K more than what I paid according to KBB. I am surprised you sold it, hard to get one that is not modified.

I'm still waiting 3 years later for my Hummer EV. But no way would I drive an electric vehicle across country and waste hours and hours when I can filled up in 2 minutes and keep it moving.

My thing is these nuts need to focus on $10-20k electric cars that only have like 100 miles of range for people to commute or run errands in so people don't need to drive vehicle but when they want to. I don't have a problem with electric vehicles I have a problem with making it seem like a electric vehicle is a multitool and it can only be used

 

[Hickster]

Stand in line. Fer dis fer dat. Guud luck. Next Repubic Can prez in office will squash all dis stuff. Car will beez wurth 0 at da cahaaa wash.

 

[cole3986]

For me it was about saving a shit ton of money on federal taxes, money not spent on gasoline and no maintenance. From a financial perspective it was a no brainer for me. Plus the cars drive great and give us options, we can drive

I'm still waiting 3 years later for my Hummer EV. But no way would I drive an electric vehicle across country and waste hours and hours when I can filled up in 2 minutes and keep it moving.

My thing is these nuts need to focus on $10-20k electric cars that only have like 100 miles of range for people to commute or run errands in so people don't need to drive vehicle but when they want to. I don't have a problem with electric vehicles I have a problem with making it seem like a electric vehicle is a multitool and it can only be used

I like your youtube vidoes and I am a subscriber so here we go. The prices have come way down, now a quality electric car is in the mid 30's and have a range of between 200 and 300 miles. I have a friend who drove a Tesla from North Jersey to Saint Louis and the charging added an extra 2.5 hours to the drive (about an extra 20% of time). Not for me but not terrible, imo.

Tesla software is excellent at this, Electrify America software is getting better but the drive can be navigated using the cars range to eliminate drama. You have to be smart about it. This site is the wrong place to talk about electric cars as I have addressed many crazy comments. For me, it just makes financial sense. I can share the numbers (as I have) it is a no brainer but many here think it is the Devil.

I have some quick Dodge iron and love it, however, where I can, I save money. My electric cars have saved me over 30K between tax credits, not buying gas, no sales tax and the savings just don't stop. I am not even factoring in the lack of maintenance (i.e oil changes, etc.). It is as simple as that. However, some here have implied or stated that I am using the system, saving money off of the tax payer dime, or other naferious activites. Under the right circumstances (i.e buying the right electric car), buying an electric car is a crackhead deal, as opposed to Last Call (another shit show).

 

[Hickster]

Now dat waz instrut eng. Da bu of da old 1s.yen creditz are guud buttster da down da roadster in 5 ears. Ware da value, chargen waitin stations goen 2 bee, waiten timez on da new batteriez, disposal feez. Alot of loopsters snot fed 2 us, yet. Instruct eng butt I anin

 

[Jimmy N.]

First trip with the 3500 with the auxiliary tank installed. Made it almost 500 miles before that 40-gallon tank was empty and it started to draw from the factory 74 gallons.

Stopped at an affordable fuel station on the way back, and it felt a bit odd to fill up when the distance to empty still showed 473 miles and I only had some 200 to go. But I did, just because.

Now, had the 3500 been electric, I'd probably still be out there somewhere (this was Wednesday). Either that or I'd unload the Durango from the trailer and drive it home, worrying about how to get the 3500 home later.

 

[cole3986]

First trip with the 3500 with the auxiliary tank installed. Made it almost 500 miles before that 40-gallon tank was empty and it started to draw from the factory 74 gallons.

Stopped at an affordable fuel station on the way back, and it felt a bit odd to fill up when the distance to empty still showed 473 miles and I only had some 200 to go. But I did, just because.

Now, had the 3500 been electric, I'd probably still be out there somewhere (this was Wednesday). Either that or I'd unload the Durango from the trailer and drive it home, worrying about how to get the 3500 home later.

It looks like you drove 700 miles. Figure 200 miles for safe range for many electric cars, equals 3.5 charges to go 700 miles, say it is 4 charges, use 45 minutes per charge equals another 3 hours to the drive. Now how did the fuel cost you at the fuel at the affordable fuel station? This is for an electric car, no towing, for towing see below.

If the electric vehicle like the Ford lighting was towing the Durango, charging would be every 70 miles (their distance sucks towing), and use 1 hour to charge due to the size of the battery pack, thus, it would it need 10 charges at 1 hour,= 10 hours additional plus the chargers are not made with a trailer in tow, may have to unhitch, add another 0.25 hours per charge or 12.5 hours. The electric truck would be getting 1 mile or less per KW towing. I makes no sense (IMO) to tow with an electric vehicle plus the chargers need to be every 70 miles which is not the case at many parts of the country.

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[Hickster]

Dis house ain't ready fer dis shitsters. Dis is a fluke brought on by NY and Cali. This cunt tree ain't nose ready fer dis systematic crap. Let's all email Nancy's ass cause she cunt hea any waze. She is dead frum da neck up. Youz guyz keep your space shit emajunation at home. It don't wurk. Keep du rest of us alone.

 

[Jimmy N.]

It looks like you drove 700 miles. Figure 200 miles for safe range for many electric cars, equals 3.5 charges to go 700 miles, say it is 4 charges, use 45 minutes per charge equals another 3 hours to the drive. Now how did the fuel cost you at the fuel at the affordable fuel station?

If the electric vehicle like the Ford lighting was towing the Durango, charging would be every 70 miles (their distance sucks towing), and use 1 hour to charge due to the size of the battery pack, thus, it would it need 10 charges at 1 hour,= 10 hours additional plus the chargers are not made with a trailer in tow, may have to unhitch, add another 0.25 hours per charge or 12.5 hours. The electric truck would be getting 1 mile or less per KW towing. I makes no sense (IMO) to tow with an electric vehicle plus the chargers need to be every 70 miles which is not the case at many parts of the country..

It was 900 miles round trip, with an about three hour stop to buy and load the car on the trailer, then about 15 minutes to fill all three tanks. Also, had to stop six times at stoplights and twice at stop signs.

Not that I would tow anything with a 1/2-ton, but the latter should be an indication of the likelihood of coming across a charging station along the way. There's a reason I added the 40 gallon auxiliary tank (to the stock 74 gallons), namely because places to get fuel are few and far in between.

On the 140 miles of interstate there are three stations, but they're a bit pricey. Got the fuel for $3.35, which is priceless compared to driving an EV, and with a fair amount of no cell service. It was a 17 hour day as it was, but I most likely wouldn't be back yet if I'd been in an EV (not towing).

 

[cole3986]

It was 900 miles round trip, with an about three hour stop to buy and load the car on the trailer, then about 15 minutes to fill all three tanks. Also, had to stop six times at stoplights and twice at stop signs.

Not that I would tow anything with a 1/2-ton, but the latter should be an indication of the likelihood of coming across a charging station along the way. There's a reason I added the 40 gallon auxiliary tank (to the stock 74 gallons), namely because places to get fuel are few and far in between.

On the 140 miles of interstate there are three stations, but they're a bit pricey. Got the fuel for $3.35, which is priceless compared to driving an EV, and with a fair amount of no cell service. It was a 17 hour day as it was, but I most likely wouldn't be back yet if I'd been in an EV (not towing).

Not sure what your point is, I agree towing makes no sense, that is why I have a 3500 cummins with a 50 gallon tank. For daily driving, I am saving a shit ton of money and I drive around 25,000 miles locally a year with the electric cars. Not sure how many different ways I have to say it but 30K savings over 17 months works for me. Buy what you want, enjoy, life is short, just saying don't piss on things unless you know.

The diesel price you paid is a crackhead price, diesel here keeps going up, now it is $ 4.25, 10 days ago $ 3.90.

 

[cole3986]

Dis house ain't ready fer dis shitsters. Dis is a fluke brought on by NY and Cali. This cunt tree ain't nose ready fer dis systematic crap. Let's all email Nancy's ass cause she cunt hea any waze. She is dead frum da neck up. Youz guyz keep your space shit emajunation at home. It don't wurk. Keep du rest of us alone.

I don't respond to your posts because I have no idea what you are saying. Please don't think I am ignoring you, I just don't understand. If you are saying somehow I am forcing you to do something, that is more crazy talk. All I am doing is using the incentives to save a shit ton of money. What is not to understand other than your posts?

 

[Jimmy N.]

Not sure how many different ways I have to say it but 30K savings over 17 months works for me. Buy what you want, enjoy, life is short, just saying don't piss on things unless you know.

And I apparently don't know how to explain that an EV (not towing) with an actual 400 mile range would not be usable around here. THERE ARE EXTREMELY FEW PLACES TO CHARGE ONE, WITHIN HUNDREDS OF MILES IN ANY DIRECTION.

Add to that the noticeable elevation changes and normal speed being 80 or better. Then add the low temps in the winter.
Trust me, even if I hit my head and ended up wanting one, IT WOULD NOT WORK HERE.

But don't worry. I'll keep paying taxes so you can save money by accepting government handouts.

 

[cole3986]

And I apparently don't know how to explain that an EV (not towing) with an actual 400 mile range would not be usable around here. THERE ARE EXTREMELY FEW PLACES TO CHARGE ONE, WITHIN HUNDREDS OF MILES IN ANY DIRECTION.

Add to that the noticeable elevation changes and normal speed being 80 or better. Then add the low temps in the winter.
Trust me, even if I hit my head and ended up wanting one, IT WOULD NOT WORK HERE.

But don't worry. I'll keep paying taxes so you can save money by accepting government handouts.

LOL, we have already discussed this, tax credit is not a government handout, charging network (EA) is private, free charging is paid by Hyundia. You live where less than 5% of the population is, just charge at home, the KW rate there is very low (based on a quick google search 14.4 cents per KW. If closest town to go food shopping, etc., is within 150 miles, what is the issue? Going 200 miles at 3 miles per KW (at high speed) costs $ 9.66 which is stupid cheap. Try doing that with a ICE and you are charging from home, no free charging. The whole argument is just ridiculous. Can you go 200 miles in New Mexico for $ 9.66?

 

[cole3986]

LOL, we have already discussed this, tax credit is not a government handout, charging network (EA) is private, free charging is paid by Hyundia. You live where less than 5% of the population is, just charge at home, the KW rate there is very low (based on a quick google search 14.4 cents per KW. If closest town to go food shopping, etc., is within 150 miles, what is the issue? Going 200 miles at 3 miles per KW (at high speed) costs $ 9.66 which is stupid cheap. Try doing that with a ICE and you are charging from home, no free charging. The whole argument is just ridiculous. Can you go 200 miles in New Mexico for $ 9.66?

 

[Jimmy N.]

LOL, we have already discussed this, tax credit is not a government handout, You live where less than 5% of the population is, just charge at home, the KW rate there is very low (based on a quick google search 14.4 cents per KW. If closest town to go food shopping, etc., is within 150 miles, what is the issue? Going 200 miles at 3 miles per KW (at high speed) costs $ 9.66 which is stupid cheap. Try doing that with a ICE and you are charging from home, no free charging. The whole argument is just ridiculous. Can you go 200 miles in New Mexico for $ 9.66?

I normally get about 22 mpg with my 'Cat. My girlfriend, driving a bit slower (under 100, usually) and less aggressively in her Redeye, always gets a bit over 24. Whatever that costs in gas is almost irrelevant. Even if gas was $10 per gallon, they're enjoyable to drive and that's what counts, or we wouldn't have them.

If indeed I lived where you think I do, having an EV would be a bit more feasible. Lower elevation, warmer, and flatter.
Still wouldn't have any "free" charging. It would cost to charge at home, and an EV most likely wouldn't make it back home, even from if we lived there.

When even the "local" Porsche dealer wouldn't recommend a Taycan for us, he either doesn't know what he's talking about...or has personal experience with trying a mere (normally) 45 minute drive, without any meaningful elevation changes. (Hint: It's the latter).

I have no problem with you saving money, at least when I'm not paying for it, but an EV simply isn't usable here.
Even if both the car and the charging was free.

 

[cole3986]

I normally get about 22 mpg with my 'Cat. My girlfriend, driving a bit slower (under 100, usually) and less aggressively in her Redeye, always gets a bit over 24. Whatever that costs in gas is almost irrelevant. Even if gas was $10 per gallon, they're enjoyable to drive and that's what counts, or we wouldn't have them.

If indeed I lived where you think I do, having an EV would be a bit more feasible. Lower elevation, warmer, and flatter.
Still wouldn't have any "free" charging. It would cost to charge at home, and an EV most likely wouldn't make it back home, even from if we lived there.

When even the "local" Porsche dealer wouldn't recommend a Taycan for us, he either doesn't know what he's talking about...or has personal experience with trying a mere (normally) 45 minute drive, without any meaningful elevation changes. (Hint: It's the latter).

I have no problem with you saving money, at least when I'm not paying for it, but an EV simply isn't usable here.
Even if both the car and the charging was free.

My Demon, Hellcat, Trackhawk, Ram 3500 and two (2) Ioniq5 are all enjoyable to drive It always boils down to a pissing match. I really don't care where you live and don't care what the Porsche dealer tells you. Just enjoy your cars and I will do the same and as you repeatedly say "on your dime".