This thread undermines what little remaining trust/respect I had for dealers and their staff. My conclusion is that dealers are a "business" just like the window installers, hospitals, Walmart and AMZN. The issue is, if you have a problem with AMZN or WM, they will give you your money back!!! The window guy might come back and re-caulk! The hospitals and car dealers will just take your $ and tell you to come back and spend more so they can "look into it". I can diagnose most problems, and fix the easy ones, but the "average" consumer, including all the college educated idiots, are clueless! The world is more upside down than ever, and the people getting screwed the worst.... are voting for CommieLA!!! We are screwed! I'm glad I'm old...