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Stock Fuel Rails, why they don’t keep up

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That is a nice design - very curious to see how durable it is...thanks for being our test guinea pig (again), because I know you will not be easy on it (y)
 


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That is a nice design - very curious to see how durable it is...thanks for being our test guinea pig (again), because I know you will not be easy on it (y)
If it works and holds up, I'm in.
 


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A very likely "me too"! :eek:
 


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I just looked at their site. Looks like they offer a fixed ring "clutched" pulley for $499 and an interchangeable ring "clutched" pulley for $799. Rings are $200 each. Kinda pricey but hey you pay for convenience I guess. I wouldn't mind a 3.10 for the street and a 2.74 for the track.
 


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yea, and I don't see the black anodized option? Mike must have it in with VIP crowd :sneaky:
 


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I haven't read anything that says that fixed pulley broke a supercharger. There are companies that rebuild superchargers that sell fixed pulleys. If they thought they damaged them I don't see them selling them. Superchargers have always had fixed pulleys until the Hellcat came out.

I have seen many decoupler pulleys break and damage the supercharger though
Have you ever read Jon Bonds warranty clauses for his rebuilds, solid pulleys a no no on IHI blowers
 


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I just looked at their site. Looks like they offer a fixed ring "clutched" pulley for $499 and an interchangeable ring "clutched" pulley for $799. Rings are $200 each. Kinda pricey but hey you pay for convenience I guess. I wouldn't mind a 3.10 for the street and a 2.74 for the track.
The 799 price includes 1 ring of your size choice, extra rings are 200 each. Christmas special I got mine for around 550 with the 2.74 ring.
 


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If it works and holds up, I'm in.
Well ya’ll know me, once together I’ll be giving it HELL and be finding out how well it holds up!! LOL
Got tracking info from Thitek on my heads, they’ll be here next week hopefully Wednesday-Thursday. Can’t wait to see what they look like!!
 


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That is a nice design - very curious to see how durable it is...thanks for being our test guinea pig (again), because I know you will not be easy on it (y)
You are Correct Sir!! lol
 


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Have you ever read Jon Bonds warranty clauses for his rebuilds, solid pulleys a no no on IHI blowers
I don't know who that is. Maybe saying that because of what factory uses?
 


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I can say one thing. Way way more static pulleys then litens on a smaller pulley car. I have seen and heard more falirurs of the failing litens taking the snout out with it than I have seen from just a snout going bad because a static pulley was used.
I get the point. I get it’s a good idea. But I don’t think one can just say if you use a static pulley you will have a supercharger or snout failure.
 


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I don't know who that is. Maybe saying that because of what factory uses?
Bond has been rebuilding superchargers for 20+ years, all kinds from cars to industrial giant ones. Here’s his warranty clause on a IHI rebuild

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The “Rotor Timing issue” is the key issue a decoupling pulley helps prevent.
 


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The way that warranty reads a litens isn’t covered either. Could be any smaller pulley spinning the blower harder.
 


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The way that warranty reads a litens isn’t covered either. Could be any smaller pulley spinning the blower harder.
He is ok with smaller pulleys as long as they are of a decoupling variety.
 


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He is ok with smaller pulleys as long as they are of a decoupling variety.
It says factory not factory style. Legally speaking he could deny anything he wanted that wasn’t factory
 


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It says factory not factory style. Legally speaking he could deny anything he wanted that wasn’t factory
That he could and he’s not the nicest guy sometimes, he’s in business to make money not give it away, his own words.
Having these blowers apart and seeing what holds them in time, a small ring about the size of a large man’s wedding ring I fully understand why IHI used a decoupling pulley. If the timing could be pinned, which some shops say they do but pinning the driven rotor and getting its timing just right gots ta be a bitch.
 


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Guess I know what I’ll be doing Thursday :)
 


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Me be time to shut off NN for you with those things.
 


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