2023 being built right before Christmas

[DavidKFla]

thats what everyone says, got 15000 om mine now with no issues except tire wear and squeaky front brakes if i dont clean them regularly. Mechanical issue reputation probably why you can find such good deals relatively speaking on used ones. when I sold my challenger when the used car market started going crazy,i was looking at getting a wide body charger hellcat but the prices were crazy high especially if you could find a red eye, picked up my M5 and put a tuner on it, got a 700 hp AWD sedan with less than 7000 miles for 80 grand out the door, not quite as aggressive looking as the charger wide body but its still a beast. time will tell

I was 1 and done with a 7 series. I loved it but it hated me.

 

[Jimmy N.]

I'm starting to like my girlfriend's RS6 Avant. It's a bit of a sleeper (to most people anyway) with 590 hp.

 

[2pac]

what do ya'll think about the new M4 competition. grill kinda funky but AWD, 500 plus underrated HP turbo 6. runs 11 flat out of the box, cheaper than the 911 S

Go g80 m3, it drives so much better than the m4 for some odd reason.

S58 is good for 1100hp on the stock block

Intake + dp + tune puts you in the low 10s on street tires with awd on 93

You start messing with e blends and you can sneak in the 9s on street tires.

There's some nasty builds for the s58.

The m5 aka s63 is finicky above 750hp, rods are weak af.

But again imagine having the ability to have a 9-10s car on the street, awd on these M cars is like driving these hellcats on a track with radials.

 

[vortecd]

Well, there are two doors, so twice the weight savings right there. What else they saved weight on I don't know.
But whatever savings they achieved must be largely offset by that big clothes drying rack on the back.

Saved weight on the money in your wallet too

 

[Jimmy N.]

Saved weight on the money in your wallet too

Would have to make up for that with the good gas mileage.