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I`m going to guess the AA is hellcat before the demon came along an AB is demon/ redeye.
Top 1 says that it fits my regular Charger. Is it an actual redeye?

Is the blower included?
no..... long block is block assy. an heads only
 


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I`m going to guess the AA is hellcat before the demon came along an AB is demon/ redeye.

no..... long block is block assy. an heads only
I knew that it's to good to be true.
 


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I bet that guy Luke at Steve White Motors could tell you. He works in parts there (I think he's the mgr.) but he seems to know his way around Hellcats, etc.

https://www.stevewhiteparts.com/

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Parts 828-469-0886
main number 828-800-0993
 


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I know there have been some changes since I got mine. Mine came with everything valve covers to oil Pan. I'm hearing new ones don't include the oil Pan maybe a few other small things as well.
 


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I know there have been some changes since I got mine. Mine came with everything valve covers to oil Pan. I'm hearing new ones don't include the oil Pan maybe a few other small things as well.
Looking at the 2 part numbers, the one you bought is the cheaper one so that doesn't make sense either unless yours is missing stuff now and the other is complete
 


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Mine was like $8300 when I got it but it was very early on.

I just checked my P m's and a gent on the forum ordered one from the same place I got mine and it did not come with an oil Pan or exhaust manifold for some reason they must have changed something.
 


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Mine was like $8300 when I got it but it was very early on.

I just checked my P m's and a gent on the forum ordered one from the same place I got mine and it did not come with an oil Pan or exhaust manifold for some reason they must have changed something.

If no oil pan, then that would presume no run-in test?
 


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That's a good question, I guess they could have a jig of some sort for that. I noticed looking at the links you posted there's some note about the oil filter not being meant for use and to swap it out for the proper filter. Mine had an Mopar filter on it, full of oil, and everything when I got it.
 


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That's a good question, I guess they could have a jig of some sort for that. I noticed looking at the links you posted there's some note about the oil filter not being meant for use and to swap it out for the proper filter. Mine had an Mopar filter on it, full of oil, and everything when I got it.

Which number did you get?
 


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The replacement block they got for me did not have a pan or exhaust manifolds either. Had a darn Mopar oil filter that as everyone reports was tight as hell and even leaked!

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@BULL PN P68436298AA - not sure if the P matters but it's at the beginning of the PN decal on my driver valve cover.

Also, just checked pics mine didn't have manifolds but everything else.

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I wonder if there is a different package with the exhaust manifolds?
 


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@BULL PN P68436298AA - not sure if the P matters but it's at the beginning of the PN decal on my driver valve cover.

Also, just checked pics mine didn't have manifolds but everything else.

View attachment 84295


So if I don't land #7, it's this or the 426...

:unsure:
 


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Mine was like $8300 when I got it but it was very early on.

I just checked my P m's and a gent on the forum ordered one from the same place I got mine and it did not come with an oil Pan or exhaust manifold for some reason they must have changed something.
@Speedy! That was me messaging you regarding the Demon/Redeye long block. I also have a 2016 Hellcat mine being a Charger.
When the long block finally arrived it did include the oil pan. The exhaust manifolds had to be swapped over as well as the knock sensors and the oil pressure switch "sensor" because the 2016 connections were changed over in the 18+ models.
 


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@BULL PN P68436298AA - not sure if the P matters but it's at the beginning of the PN decal on my driver valve cover.

Also, just checked pics mine didn't have manifolds but everything else.

View attachment 84295
Here is mine... 20220820_134321.jpg 20220820_134331.jpg 20220820_163910.jpg
 


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Ok, dumb question

Why is the less expensive p/n the more complete unit??
 


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@Speedy! That was me messaging you regarding the Demon/Redeye long block. I also have a 2016 Hellcat mine being a Charger.
When the long block finally arrived it did include the oil pan. The exhaust manifolds had to be swapped over as well as the knock sensors and the oil pressure switch "sensor" because the 2016 connections were changed over in the 18+ models.
I didn't wanna say who in case you were building super secret ninja stuff.
 




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