The Grand Wagoneer Gas Mileage Stats- Oh the Horror!

[Whatknot]

Damn that thing is just UGLY wow the doors stand out like a sore thumb. Good gas mpg or bad the new Grand Wagoneer IMO is a GRAND Design Flop.

A set of black wheels, that aren't as ugly as those, tint the front windows to match the rears, and it will improve the look a lot.
I find the chevy escalade just as ugly.

 

[Catless]

Gas mileage almost as bad as our Grand Cherokee SRT!

 

[Prange]

All it needs is the woodgrain inserts on the side.

 

[Jimmy N.]

Wish they would put the 6.4 in the 1500. It would be sitting in my drive way tomorrow.

Blown away Ram hasn’t made a really bad ass 1500 truck with the 392 Motor what a damn shame.😡

Exactly. Why put that lame Hellcat engine in a 1500 when they could've offered a 6.4 instead?

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

All it needs is the woodgrain inserts on the side.

Hell yes!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

Exactly. Why put that lame Hellcat engine in a 1500 when they could've offered a 6.4 instead?

Because not everyone wants to spend $120k on a Ram 1500 with some performance.

Besides......the 6.4 is much better for fleet duty giving rides and making money

They've kept that 5.7 in the 1500 for years after they put the 6.4 in the 2500's. They surely could've made another R/T package truck with the 6.4.
I mean Jesus.....they've stuffed that 6.4 in a Durango for a few years now.

 

[Jimmy N.]

Because not everyone wants to spend $120k on a Ram 1500 with some performance.

I agree. Which is the main reason I'm only paying about 70K for a somewhat lightly optioned one.

About the only reason I can see for a 6.4 is that the engine is slightly lighter (bigger holes in the block) and that there's no pesky blower adding power and wonderful sounds.

Heck, I may just have to cut the belt, so the 1500 will be more suitable for fleet duty.

 

[Boris]

6.4 is the only engine available in the Grand Wagoneer. Even the 'cheap' GW is $88k though.

Regular (Un-grand) Wagoneer gets the 5.7 w/ Etorque

Should have done like the Suburban/Tahoe and given the EcoDiesel a home in one of these.

Im not a huge fan of GM at the moment but 26mpg in a 6400lbs Suburban that can tow 8,000lbs. Thats pretty damn good IMO.

 

[Jimmy N.]

Should have done like the Suburban/Tahoe and given the EcoDiesel a home in one of these.

Ecodiesel?!? Is this a wish list for a race to the bottom now?
Not even a taxi should be saddled with an Ecodiesel.

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

I agree. Which is the main reason I'm only paying about 70K for a somewhat lightly optioned one.

About the only reason I can see for a 6.4 is that the engine is slightly lighter (bigger holes in the block) and that there's no pesky blower adding power and wonderful sounds.

Heck, I may just have to cut the belt, so the 1500 will be more suitable for fleet duty.

You can probably generate some additional sales if you put a taco bar in the back, especially if you get the drunks late Fri/Sat nights after the bars close

 

[Jimmy N.]

You can probably generate some additional sales if you put a taco bar in the back, especially if you get the drunks late Fri/Sat nights after the bars close

You may be onto something there, 'trooper. Maybe an Ecodiesel will run on the taco drippings?

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

You may be onto something there, 'trooper. Maybe an Ecodiesel will run on the taco drippings?

I'm pretty sure it would if you added cheap greasy pizza

 

[Jimmy N.]

Speaking of 1500s, I had one for about seven years. It was primarily used as an all-weather car, but one of its duties was to get softener salt every now and then.

Having four 40-lb. bags in the back made a very noticeable difference in stance and handling. There was no forgetting that those 160 lbs. were back there.

Well, the other day I used my new beater car, a Golf Sportwagen, to go get salt. What a difference!
Or more precisely, I couldn't feel any difference. Could've probably loaded 10 bags in the back before it affected anything negatively.

So please tell me again why the heck I ordered another 1500?!?
Oh, that's right...it doesn't have a V6, a 5.7, or a 6.4, but a 6.2.

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

Speaking of 1500s, I had one for about seven years. It was primarily used as an all-weather car, but one of its duties was to get softener salt every now and then.

Having four 40-lb. bags in the back made a very noticeable difference in stance and handling. There was no forgetting that those 160 lbs. were back there.

Well, the other day I used my new beater car, a Golf Sportwagen, to go get salt. What a difference!
Or more precisely, I couldn't feel any difference. Could've probably loaded 10 bags in the back before it affected anything negatively.

So please tell me again why the heck I ordered another 1500?!?
Oh, that's right...it doesn't have a V6, a 5.7, or a 6.4, but a 6.2.

Well.....I would hardly call the one you ordered just "another 1500". It's not the average 1500 with just some additional performance.
It's not in the same league as the average 1500 that comes with a 5.7 and you could add an R/T or Scat Pack package that would add the 6.4, and a few other performance goodies and could hit the $45-50k price range.

I know that you're fortunate enough to have a dealership that gives you outstanding deals, but not everyone has that. Every TRX that was advertised in my immediate area were all over $100k, with most touching $115-128k.

 

[Jimmy N.]

Well.....I would hardly call the one you ordered just "another 1500". It's not the average 1500 with just some additional performance.

I know that you're fortunate enough to have a dealership that gives you outstanding deals, but not everyone has that. Every TRX that was advertised in my immediate area were all over $100k, with most touching $115-128k.

No, it's a bit beyond average, and I already knew that. But it wasn't until taking a creeper tour under my girlfriend's TRX that I realized just how un-average they are. There's a lot of good beefy stuff down there.
That's why it made sense to me to ditch the ultra boring 1500 and the Trackhawk and order another 1500.

Also, if you buy off the lot, you'll pay dearly. That's one reason why I prefer to order. I get exactly what I want, at a good price, and certainly no ADM.
Besides, it's a public dealership. Although not in your immediate area, which is a good thing. I'd hate to have bullet holes in a new car.

 

[Stormtrooper1320]

No, it's a bit beyond average, and I already knew that. But it wasn't until taking a creeper tour under my girlfriend's TRX that I realized just how un-average they are. There's a lot of good beefy stuff down there.
That's why it made sense to me to ditch the ultra boring 1500 and the Trackhawk and order another 1500.

Also, if you buy off the lot, you'll pay dearly. That's one reason why I prefer to order. I get exactly what I want, at a good price, and certainly no ADM.
Besides, it's a public dealership. Although not in your immediate area, which is a good thing. I'd hate to have bullet holes in a new car.

Hell......I avoid the city at all costs because not only don't I want bullet holes in my vehicle.....I don't want holes in me.

 

[Grape Ape]

I found that pic right after they announced the GW. I think it was in the same article but I'd have to do some digging to find out. You would think that Dodge could do it easily since it would share the same chassis as the GW and those look like std Ram 1500 front end parts.

Edit:

Here an even newer article......with a TRX twist.

https://2022suvs.com/2021-ram-ramcharger/

Now that is badass!

 

[Jimmy N.]

Dang. I may have to trade the TRX in on a 6.2 Ramcharger before I even get it.
Two door bliss!